Friday, June 17, 2016

June 16, 2016

Poets’ Roundtable

When I began gathering notes for this meeting I intended to open with the poetry of Muhammad Ali. Then Orlando happened and so I turned my attention to how to write about tragedy and the attendant challenges therein. The discussion at the meeting was very good. I see that the assignment for the July 7 meeting is to write about the most recent tragedy on the national/world scene so let's keep it at that rather than look at personal tragedy unless something compels you to do that. I also include here a link to Auden's graphic sexual poem which I mentioned and which, while tangential, is part of the spectrum when we consider all that Orlando encompasses. Muhammad Ali's "I Am the Greatest" appears below.


  1. Welcome
  2. News and Jabber
    1. How do we write about tragedy when it is so close?
    2. I asked poet yusef komunyakaa about this. He was a journalist and  poet who covered and served in Viet Nam. His answer was to wait. What if you cannot wait? Bob’s poem about Verdun waited 60 years and is still difficult. Sometimes strict form is helpful but often not. I wrote a series about Sandy Hook. “Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackness,” that I cannot show to anybody because of the revulsion I felt when I shared one. So now the question becomes what to do with what you write and also why write it if you cannot share it? The writer’s job is a courageous one. We here have all progressed into areas of courage with our writings. There is more courage to be summoned.
    3. I attended a  memorial service for the Orlando dead and, by default, the Sandy Hook victims. The priest suggested that no one considers the soul of the shooters. I disagree. I think we all eventually get around to either say he ought to stay alive to suffer what he deserves or that maybe there is forgiveness available somehow somewhere if not in my own heart. Here is a poem from my riff on Sandy Hook that I have never dared to show anyone.


On indifference: W.H. Auden, "Musée des Beaux Arts"


About suffering they were never wrong,
The old Masters: how well they understood
Its human position: how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;


Read Jameson Fitzpatrick’s poem in full below:


A Poem for Pulse


Last night, I went to a gay bar


with a man I love a little.


After dinner, we had a drink.


We sat in the far-back of the big backyard


and he asked, What will we do when this place closes?


I don’t think it’s going anywhere any time soon, I said,


though the crowd was slow for a Saturday,


and he said—Yes, but one day. Where will we go?


He walked me the half-block home


and kissed me goodnight on my stoop—


properly: not too quick, close enough


our stomachs pressed together


in a second sort of kiss.


I live next to a bar that’s not a gay bar


—we just call those bars, I guess—


and because it is popular


and because I live on a busy street,


there are always people who aren’t queer people


on the sidewalk on weekend nights.


We just call those people, I guess.


They were there last night.


As I kissed this man I was aware of them watching


and of myself wondering whether or not they were just


people. But I didn’t let myself feel scared, I kissed him


exactly as I wanted to, as I would have without an audience,


because I decided many years ago to refuse this fear—


an act of resistance. I left


the idea of hate out on the stoop and went inside,


to sleep, early and drunk and happy.


While I slept, a man went to a gay club


with two guns and killed fifty people. At least.


Today in an interview, his father said he had been disturbed


by the sight of two men kissing recently.


What a strange power to be cursed with,


for the proof of our desire to move men to violence.


What’s a single kiss? I’ve had kisses


no one has ever known about, so many


kisses without consequence—


but there is a place you can’t outrun,


whoever you are.


There will be a time when.


It might be a bullet, suddenly.


The sound of it. Many.


One man, two guns, fifty dead—


Two men kissing. Last night


is what I can’t get away from, imagining it, them,


the people there to dance and laugh and drink,


who didn’t believe they’d die, who couldn’t have.


How else can you have a good time?


How else can you live?


There must have been two men kissing


for the first time last night, and for the last,


and two women, too, and two people who were neither.


Brown people mostly, which cannot be a coincidence in this country


which is a racist country, which is gun country.


Today I’m thinking of the Bernie Boston photograph


Flower Power, of the Vietnam protestor placing carnations


in the rifles of the National Guard,


and wishing for a gesture as queer and simple.


The protester in the photo was gay, you know,


he went by Hibiscus and died of AIDS,


which I am also thinking about today because


(the government’s response to) AIDS was a hate crime.


Reagan was a terrorist.


Now we have a president who loves Us,


the big and imperfectly lettered Us, and here we are


getting kissed on stoops, getting married some of Us,


some of Us getting killed.


We must love one another whether or not we die.


Love can’t block a bullet


but it can’t be destroyed by one either,


and love is, for the most part, what makes Us Us—


in Orlando and in Brooklyn and in Kabul.


We will be everywhere, always;


there’s nowhere else for Us, or you, to go.


Anywhere you run in this world, love will be there to greet you.


Around any corner, there might be two men. Kissing.


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  1. The Current Assignment
To write a sonnet
How many did the assignment?
What are your poems about?
Why do you suppose they are about these topics?


  1. The Next Assignment
    1. Write about the most recent tragedy on the national/world scene
  2. Next Meeting
    1. July 7, 2016
  3. Other Notes
    1. This is where I was going to begin today's meeting until Orlando hit the scene

Muhammad Ali > Quotes > Quotable Quote
Muhammad Ali
“This is the legend of Cassius Clay,
The most beautiful fighter in the world today.
He talks a great deal, and brags indeed-y,
of a muscular punch that's incredibly speed-y.
The fistic world was dull and weary,
But with a champ like Liston, things had to be dreary.
Then someone with color and someone with dash,
Brought fight fans are runnin' with Cash.
This brash young boxer is something to see
And the heavyweight championship is his des-tin-y.
This kid fights great; he’s got speed and endurance,
But if you sign to fight him, increase your insurance.
This kid's got a left; this kid's got a right,
If he hit you once, you're asleep for the night.
And as you lie on the floor while the ref counts ten,
You’ll pray that you won’t have to fight me again.
For I am the man this poem’s about,
The next champ of the world, there isn’t a doubt.
This I predict and I know the score,
I’ll be champ of the world in ’64.
When I say three, they’ll go in the third,
So don’t bet against me, I’m a man of my word.
He is the greatest! Yes!
I am the man this poem’s about,
I’ll be champ of the world, there isn’t a doubt.
Here I predict Mr. Liston’s dismemberment,
I’ll hit him so hard; he’ll wonder where October and November went.
When I say two, there’s never a third,
Standin against me is completely absurd.
When Cassius says a mouse can outrun a horse,
Don’t ask how; put your money where your mouse is!
I AM THE GREATEST!”


― Muhammad Ali

Friday, June 3, 2016

June 2, 2016

Poets’ Roundtable

  1. Welcome
    1. How many did the assignment?
  2. News and Jabber
  3. The Current Assignment
  4. The Next Assignment

Never Again Would Bird's Song Be The Same - Poem by Robert Frost



  1. He would declare and could himself believe
  2. That the birds there in all the garden round
  3. From having heard the daylong voice of Eve
  4. Had added to their own an oversound,
  5. Her tone of meaning but without the words.
  6. Admittedly an eloquence so soft
  7. Could only have had an influence on birds
  8. When call or laughter carried it aloft.
  9. Be that as may be, she was in their song.
  10. Moreover her voice upon their voices crossed
  11. Had now persisted in the woods so long
  12. That probably it never would be lost.
  13. Never again would birds' song be the same.
  14. And to do that to birds was why she came.

Basic Sonnet Forms

Nelson Miller

From the Cayuse Press Writers Exchange Board



A sonnet is fundamentally a dialectical construct which allows the poet to examine the nature and ramifications of two usually contrastive ideas,emotions, states of mind, beliefs, actions, events, images, etc., byjuxtaposing the two against each other, and possibly resolving or justrevealing the tensions created and operative between the two.
O. K., so much for the fancy language. Basically, in a sonnet, youshow two related but differing things to the reader in order to communicatesomething about them. Each of the three major types of sonnets accomplishesthis in a somewhat different way. There are, of course, other types of sonnets,as well, but I'll stick for now to just the basic three (Italian, Spenserian, English), with a brief look at some non-standard sonnets.

I. The Italian (or Petrarchan) Sonnet:

The basic meter of all sonnets in English is iambic pentameter (basic information on iambic pentameter),although there have been a few tetrameter and even hexametersonnets, as well.
The Italian sonnet is divided into two sections by two differentgroups of rhyming sounds. The first 8 lines is called the octaveand rhymes:
a b b a a b b a
The remaining 6 lines is called the sestet and can haveeither two or three rhyming sounds, arranged in a variety ofways:
c d c d c d
c d d c d c
c d e c d e
c d e c e d
c d c e d c
The exact pattern of sestet rhymes (unlike the octave pattern)is flexible. In strict practice, the one thing that is to be avoidedin the sestet is ending with a couplet (dd or ee), as this wasnever permitted in Italy, and Petrarch himself (supposedly) never used a couplet ending; in actual practice, sestets aresometimes ended with couplets (Sidney's "Sonnet LXXI givenbelow is an example of such a terminal couplet in an Italiansonnet).
The point here is that the poem is divided into two sections bythe two differing rhyme groups. In accordance with the principle(which supposedly applies to all rhymed poetry but oftendoesn't), a change from one rhyme group to another signifiesa change in subject matter. This change occurs at thebeginning of L9 in the Italian sonnet and is called the volta,or "turn"; the turn is an essential element of the sonnet form, perhaps the essential element. It is at the volta thatthe second idea is introduced, as in this sonnet by Wordsworth:
"London, 1802"
Milton! thou shouldst be living at this hour:
England hath need of thee: she is a fen
Of stagnant waters: altar, sword, and pen,
Fireside, the heroic wealth of hall and bower,
Have forfeited their ancient English dower
Of inward happiness. We are selfish men;
Oh! raise us up, return to us again;
And give us manners, virtue, freedom, power.
Thy soul was like a Star, and dwelt apart;
Thou hadst a voice whose sound was like the sea:
Pure as the naked heavens, majestic, free,
So didst thou travel on life's common way,
In cheerful godliness; and yet thy heart
The lowliest duties on herself did lay.
Here, the octave develops the idea of the decline and corruption of the English race, while the sestet opposes to that loss the qualities Milton possessed which the race now desperately needs.
A very skillful poet can manipulate the placement of the volta for dramatic effect, although this is difficult to do well. An extremeexample is this sonnet by Sir Philip Sidney, which delays the voltaall the way to L 14:
"Sonnet LXXI"
Who will in fairest book of Nature know
How Virtue may best lodged in Beauty be,
Let him but learn of Love to read in thee,
Stella, those fair lines, which true goodness show.
There shall he find all vices' overthrow,
Not by rude force, but sweetest sovereignty
Of reason, from whose light those night-birds fly;
That inward sun in thine eyes shineth so.
And not content to be Perfection's heir
Thyself, dost strive all minds that way to move,
Who mark in thee what is in thee most fair.
So while thy beauty draws the heart to love,
As fast thy Virtue bends that love to good.
"But, ah," Desire still cries, "give me some food."
Here, in giving 13 lines to arguing why Reason makes clearto him that following Virtue is the course he should take, he seems to be heavily biassing the argument in Virtue'sfavor. But the volta powerfully undercuts the arguments of Reason in favor of Virtue by revealing that Desire isn't amenableto Reason.
There are a number of variations which evolved over time to make iteasier to write Italian sonnets in English. Most common is a changein the octave rhyming pattern from a b b a a b b a to a b b a a c c a,eliminating the need for two groups of 4 rhymes, something not alwayseasy to come up with in English which is a rhyme-poor language.Wordsworth uses that pattern in the following sonnet, along with aterminal couplet:
"Scorn Not the Sonnet"
Scorn not the Sonnet; Critic, you have frowned,
Mindless of its just honours; with this key
Shakespeare unlocked his heart; the melody
Of this small lute gave ease to Petrarch's wound;
A thousand times this pipe did Tasso sound;
With it Camoens soothed an exile's grief;
The Sonnet glittered a gay myrtle leaf
Amid the cypress wtih which Dante crowned
His visionary brow: a glow-worm lamp,
It cheered mild Spenser, called from Faery-land
To struggle through dark ways; and when a damp
Fell round the path of Milton, in his hand
The Thing became a trumpet; whence he blew
Soul-animating strains--alas, too few!
Another variation on the Italian form is this one, byTennyson's older brother Charles Tennyson-Turner,who wrote 342 sonnets, many in variant forms.Here, Turner uses an a b b a c d c d e f f e f epattern, with the volta delayed until the middleof L9:
"Missing the Meteors"
A hint of rain--a touch of lazy doubt--
Sent me to bedward on that prime of nights,
When the air met and burst the aerolites,
Making the men stare and the children shout:
Why did no beam from all that rout and rush
Of darting meteors, pierce my drowsed head?
Strike on the portals of my sleep? and flush
My spirit through mine eyelids, in the stead
Of that poor vapid dream? My soul was pained,
My very soul, to have slept while others woke,
While little children their delight outspoke,
And in their eyes' small chambers entertained
Far notions of the Kosmos! I mistook
The purpose of that night--it had not rained.

II. The Spenserian Sonnet:

The Spenserian sonnet, invented by Edmund Spenseras an outgrowth of the stanza pattern he used in TheFaerie Queene (a b a b b c b c c), has the pattern:
a b a b b c b c c d c d e e
Here, the "abab" pattern sets up distinct four-linegroups, each of which develops a specific idea;however, the overlapping a, b, c, and d rhymes form thefirst 12 lines into a single unit with a separated finalcouplet. The three quatrains then develop threedistinct but closely related ideas, with a differentidea (or commentary) in the couplet. Interestingly,Spenser often begins L9 ofhis sonnets with "But" or "Yet," indicating a voltaexactly where it would occur in the Italian sonnet;however, if one looks closely, one often finds that the "turn" here really isn't one at all, that the actualturn occurs where the rhyme pattern changes, withthe couplet, thus giving a 12 and 2 line pattern very different from the Italian 8 and 6 line pattern (actualvolta marked by italics):
"Sonnet LIV"
Of this World's theatre in which we stay,
My love like the Spectator idly sits,
Beholding me, that all the pageants play,
Disguising diversely my troubled wits.
Sometimes I joy when glad occasion fits,
And mask in mirth like to a Comedy;
Soon after when my joy to sorrow flits,
I wail and make my woes a Tragedy.
Yet she, beholding me with constant eye,
Delights not in my mirth nor rues my smart;
But when I laugh, she mocks: and when I cry
She laughs and hardens evermore her heart.
What then can move her? If nor mirth nor moan,
She is no woman, but a senseless stone.

III. The English (or Shakespearian) Sonnet:

The English sonnet has the simplest and most flexiblepattern of all sonnets, consisting of 3 quatrains of alternating rhyme and a couplet:
a b a b
c d c d
e f e f
g g
As in the Spenserian, each quatrain develops aspecific idea, but one closely related to the ideasin the other quatrains.
Not only is the English sonnet the easiest in termsof its rhyme scheme, calling for only pairs ofrhyming words rather than groups of 4, but it isthe most flexible in terms of the placement of thevolta. Shakespeare often places the "turn,"as in the Italian, at L9:
"Sonnet XXIX"
When in disgrace with Fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possessed,
Desiring this man's art and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least,
Yet in these thoughts my self almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
(Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth) sings hymns at heaven's gate,
For thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings,
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
Equally, Shakespeare can delay the volta tothe final couplet, as in this sonnet where eachquatrain develops a metaphor describing theaging of the speaker, while the couplet thenstates the consequence--"You better love menow because soon I won't be here":
"Sonnet LXXIII"
That time of year thou mayst in me behold,
When yellow leaves, or none, or few do hang
Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
Bare ruined choirs, where late the sweet birds sang.
In me thou seest the twilight of such day,
As after sunset fadeth in the west,
Which by and by black night doth take away,
Death's second self that seals up all in rest.
In me thou seest the glowing of such fire,
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
As the deathbed, whereon it must expire,
Consumed by that which it was nourished by.
This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong,
To love that well, which thou must leave ere long.

IV. The Indefinables

There are, of course, some sonnets that don't fit any clear recognizablepattern but still certainly function as sonnets. Shelley's "Ozymandias"belongs to this category. It's rhyming pattern of a b a b a c d c e d e f e fis unique; clearly, however, there is a volta in L9 exactly as in anItalian sonnet:
"Ozymandias"
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, (stamped on these lifeless things,)
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Frederick Goddard Tuckerman wrote sonnets with free abandonand with virtually no regard for any kind of pattern at all, his rhymesafter the first few lines falling seemingly at random, as in this sonnetfrom his "Sonnets, First Series," which rhymes a b b a b c a b a d e c e d,with a volta at L10:
"Sonnet XXVIII"
Not the round natural world, not the deep mind,
The reconcilement holds: the blue abyss
Collects it not; our arrows sink amiss
And but in Him may we our import find.
The agony to know, the grief, the bliss
Of toil, is vain and vain: clots of the sod
Gathered in heat and haste and flung behind
To blind ourselves and others, what but this
Still grasping dust and sowing toward the wind?
No more thy meaning seek, thine anguish plead,
But leave straining thought and stammering word,
Across the barren azure pass to God:
Shooting the void in silence like a bird,
A bird that shuts his wings for better speed.
One wonders if the "sod"/"God" rhyme, being six lines apart,actually works, if the reader's ear can pick it up across thatdistance. Still, the poem has the dialectical structure thata sonnet is supposed to have, so there is justification for infact considering it one.

This is one of my favorite sonnets and I use it here because It is (nearly) contemporary and people often think of  sonnets as old.

Many of John Berryman’s 16-line poems are considered sonnets while his sonnets to Chris, all 117 of them, are strictly of fourteen lines with typical sonnet rhyme schemes.I especially like this one:

Sonnet 115 - All we were going strong last night this time

All we were going strong last night this time,
the mosts were flying & the frozen daiquiris
were downing, supine on the floor lay Lise
listening to Schubert grievous & sublime,
my head was frantic with a following rime:
it was a good evening, and evening to please,
I kissed her in the kitchen -ecstasies-
among so much good we tamped down the crime.

The weather's changing. This morning was cold,
as I made for the grove, without expectation,
some hundred Sonnets in my pocket, old,
to read her if she came. Presently the sun
yellowed the pines & my lady came not
in blue jeans & a sweater. I sat down & wrote.
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June 16, 2016
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